UN expert Francesca Albanese just spoke to Channel 4‘s Krishnan Guru-Murthy. And as the presenter attempted to ‘both sides’ Israel’s genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, Albanese stopped him in his tracks.
No platform for the propaganda of war criminals on Channel 4
As Israeli occupation forces destroyed the Gaza ceasefire by resuming its campaign of mass murder in the territory, Guru-Murthy said “I just want to put to you what Israel’s explanation is”. But Albanese rightly prevented him from platforming Israeli propaganda, saying:
I don’t need to hear what Israel says. Can we centre the discussion on international law? And this is not my opinion – there is a commission of inquiry, Amnesty International, Israeli historians. I’m fine with responding to any questions. But I would have the discussion not to be centred about what the government that is led by two leaders who are indicted for war crimes and crimes against humanity are saying.
.@FranceskAlbs brilliantly bats away the suggestion that we should listen to Israels explanation for its actions. No, lets concentrate on international law rather than listen to a regime that is led by a wanted war criminal. pic.twitter.com/t6uLRtJRNL
— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) March 19, 2025
The wanted war criminals she mentioned were prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former defence minister Yoav Gallant. The latter is no longer in government, but recently admitted that Israel had authorised its occupation forces to kill its own citizens on 7 October 2023.
As Albanese points out, the arguments of international legal experts and human rights organisations should always take precedence over the propaganda of war criminals. Because numerous genocide experts have long called out Israel’s genocide in Gaza. And while deathmongers will always try to defend or deny the crimes they’re committing, that doesn’t mean the media should give them a platform to do so.
‘No right of self-defence against a threat that emanates from a territory you occupy’
Albanese has previously set out the international legal position on Israel’s occupation of Palestine and war crimes within it, stressing that:
Israel didn’t have the right to wage a war against the Palestinians in Gaza.
She clarified that:
The International Court of Justice [ICJ] has said in 2004 and in 2024 that Israel didn’t have the right to defend itself.
In 2004, as Al Jazeera reports, the ICJ said Israel “could not invoke the right to self-defence in an occupied territory”. And although Israel did not physically occupy Gaza after 2005, it still exerted control over the territory via its brutal blockade in the following two decades. As Albanese emphasised previously, that amounts to occupation. She said:
Israel does not claim it has been threatened by another state. It has been threatened by an armed group within an occupied territory. It cannot claim the right of self-defence against a threat that emanates from a territory it occupies, from a territory kept under belligerent occupation
In January 2024, meanwhile, the ICJ found it plausible that Israel had committed genocide in Gaza.
Later, the ICJ ruled that Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territories was illegal. The court avoided talking about self-defence, but the BBC explained the ICJ president’s clarification that:
Israel’s withdrawal from the Gaza Strip in 2005 did not bring Israel’s occupation of that area to an end because it still exercises effective control over it.
“Open mind doesn’t mean empty mind”
Also speaking to Guru-Murthy, Albanese insisted that she entered her position at the UN with an open mind, but that “open mind doesn’t mean empty mind”. She explained:
I’m required to be impartial, to document the facts objectively, and to assess them according to the applicable legal framework, which is humanitarian law, international human rights law, and the other conventions that are a complement to the human rights system. Once I’ve made my conclusions, it’s not up to me to strive for equidistance among the parties.
And having made her conclusions, she asserted:
here, there are no parties. There is an unlawful occupier [Israel], and an occupied people in perpetuity [Palestinians]. There is a state [Israel] that continues to advance what has the hallmark of settler-colonial practices, and it’s committing international crimes.
“An open mind doesn’t mean an empty mind” — @FranceskAlbs with this mic drop moment when asked by @krishgm of accusations of bias on @channel4. #micdrop pic.twitter.com/BeqaeGpa79
— Ahmed Eldin | احمد الدين (@ASE) March 18, 2025
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Jon Snow’s replacement Guru-Murphy — is useless. Snow got really angry when the Israeli spokesman — an Australian import who later became ambassador — lied through his teeth when being questioned about Operation Cast Lead which killed thousands in Gaza. We now have ex. director of Labour Friends of Israel — David Mencer — as Israeli spokesman lying through his teeth.
Ah yes, the rabid anti semite Albanese. Not an individual one should take seriously. The UN is no longer a credible organisation and neither are the various NGOs referred to. What is extraordinary is how the illiterate people that inhabit these organisations have so little comprehension of the matters at hand, but instead advance their own flawed ignorant, uninformed, and anti Jewish arguments, while neatly ignoring the blatant war crimes against humanity perpetrated by the organisation they quite obviously support – Hamas. Using the civilian population is a war crime, and it is done so that it makes the effective targetting of the military infrastructure that is being shielded a virtual impossibility if you don’t want to cause casualties within the civpop. However, thankfully, the GV allows for such targetting if the target can be militarily justified. And it is. That is why every first world military has legal experts in the GV and LOAC on hand. Therefore, although the screaming ignorant may shout ‘war crime’ or ‘genocide’ at every Israeli attack, there is in fact no evidence to suggest that such pronouncements are made based on a kurnel of truth, other than of course the obvious bias of the commentator who is clearly anti Israeli. People need to grow up and realise that war ain’t nice. This has been going on ad nauseum for millennia, the only thing that has changed is that now, for the first time, people are seeing it in all it’s full unabridged technicolour glory. To conclude, a military target located within civilian infrastructure, if deemed of stragetic or tactical importance, is a legal and justiable target. Collateral damage is an unfortunate but justiable result, and is mitigated down as far as possible where possible. A governing authority has a prime and overriding responsibility for its non combatants and should have mechanisms in place to safeguard them in times of conflict. Hamas has done none of this, quite the opposite in fact. And as for ‘international law’ and ‘humanitarian law’, pull the other one. These are abstract and nebulous notions that have little to no authority other than in the minds of a few niave individuals who have made a profession out of peddling their own circular arguments.
I take Albanese very seriously. Actually, I think she does a fantastic job of laying out the legal framework and Israel’s abuse of it very clearly – especially for a person whose first language is not English. There are few voices of sanity out there when it comes to Gaza/Palestine (few voices of any sort, in fact) and hers is one of the strongest and most consistent. Thanks, Francesca, for all your work.